(ein typ namens Z, der eindeutige trollbehaviours aufweist:) Especially NZ supporters. Please watch the crowds at the soccer world cup. Notice the singing, chanting and general participation. Please emulate these superior crowds so NZ rugby does not continue its reputation of the world's dullest crowds.

(ein anderer regular:) You are a clueless twit. A large part of the terrace crowds in soccer are not there for the game. In some ways, they're more like the carpark crowd at Twickenham - there for the event. The general participation you think is so good includes throwing things on the field, screaming racial abuse at anybody you don't like, spitting at players and officials, throwing coins at players, rioting, invading the pitch, arranged fights with other gangs and more mindless numbskullery than you'd find in a Waratahs board meeting. Of course, this is because soccer is so ditch water dull that you've got to get SOMETHING for your money - a scoreless draw is not exactly an exciting day out, is it? If that's what you think rugby "needs" might I politely suggest you fuck off. When I go to a game, I want to see the game, not the crowd. Rugby is exciting enough without the sideshow distractions.